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  1. wah says:

    If sports punter all sports was half the price or I had twice the bank……..
    You wouldn’t want your mistakes to even out because that would suggest your tipsters have no edge.
    Who was the bookie who had 365 best like betting and do you know what triggered them to shut you down so fast (no more 365 best) cost me approx $890 this week 3 percent of my bank… So far

  2. Stewboss says:

    You would have to make a whole lot of mistakes for your assertion to hold true. Anything else is just randomness.

  3. Tom says:

    Steve can you recommend any offshore books that you might use for NBL, either now or in the future? I fear my time with the Aussie ones is going to end shortly with a few more Sportpunter NBL wins. I’ve given up with getting value from Pinnacle as I’m just not quite quick enough at release time (damn bot-boy).

  4. Steve says:

    Sadly Pin is the only non aussie one I use. I’m not looking forward to this week as my only outs seem to be limited now. Not sure its worth throwing another account away as well. Will just have to keep plugging away. Last week I was not able to get fully on the biggest bet of the week.

  5. MS says:

    steve are you not able ot utiliize sport market pro?

  6. Steve says:

    Yes, I use Sportmarket Pro. It does not have NBL though.
    I only use if for Soccer.

  7. DrChris says:

    So Steve you’re folowing SP NBA h2h and not the line bets?

  8. Steve says:

    Yep, these two have the highest returns. Yes there’s a lot more variance betting the H2H instead of the line bets, but I can deal with that.

  9. wah says:

    I make a lot of mistakes. My theory (correct me if I’m wrong, I often am) is that the missed bets cost you about the roi of your tipster (say 10%) times the bet (say 100 for simplicity) 10$ each one in this case on average. Now that is assuming you go away on holidays and don’t put any on for the weekend if you just miss them due to price crashes (especially horses) you can nearly double that figure.

    Backing the wrong side is much worse (same example) you would be missing the 10$ profit but also locking in a loss ( I reckon 5% bookie overland plus the price is on average 10% short on the other side, that’s why your tipster was tipping it in theory) so you are looking at about 25% or 25$ in this case turnaround per f… Up. Worse if your tipster is better…. I hate making stupid mistakes.

  10. Steve says:

    Yep, that sounds right, but with it only happening a few times each year the biggest factor is pure luck. Just need to make sure they happen as infrequently as possible.

  11. 7tin says:

    Hello Steve. Second try, first comment somehow vanquished. Have just stumbled in to your blog and i must say i’m impressed. Results speak for itself and you also have a nice way of writing. I was very skeptical about some of the services you are following, so it’s nice to read about your experiences and the other people commenting here. Was wondering some things. Do you include the money you pay for tips in your profit/loss and ROI stats? And, which bookmakers do you currently use? Thanks in advance, will be following your blog closely ; )

  12. Stewboss says:

    What Steve said…

  13. Steve says:

    Hi Mate,
    No, the subscription cost is not added in, very silly of me really as it is a cost. I will do an article soon with how much I have paid in Subscription fees over the years.
    There is an article about which bookmakers i used, just search for bookmakers and you will find it.

  14. DrChris says:

    Thanks Steve, do you place your NBA h2h bets at the 5-6pm release or in the AM when Jon puts up with pin prices?

  15. Steve says:

    That’s still a work in progress. Right now I bet them around 11pm my time when they open, but am checking to see if its better to wait.

  16. 7tin says:

    Thanks for your answer! Allright, good to hear you will write an article about those costs. Found your bookmaker article as well, interesting ; )! Was wondering something else; A lot of the services you follow have higher yields displayed at their site. Is this because you catch the odds slightly lower in general? And how many ticks lower do you go, like from which point do you skip a bet? I’ve read some discussion about clubgowi as well, isn’t it just the odds drop that makes the yield on his site appear much higher? Or is it fake even without those drops? Asking because i just signed up with hem and i’ve noticed it’s impossible to get the same odds, often get them about 10 ticks lower (for the smaller markets), which can be about 5% in the long run. And lastly, what is your general opinion from start to date about Football value, Football elite and TFA? Would you recommend them? I’m sorry to ask so much questions mate, hope you can find the time to answer them. Thanks and keep up the good work!

  17. Steve says:

    All those answers can be found by using the search function.
    All services want to look much better then they are, no single person is ever going to match the odds they quote. I am still yet to find a service where I consistently get or beat the odds quoted. If these tipsters quoted fair odds (which mean odds that the average customer who isn’t super quick) then they would mostly show a very low or negative ROI.

    Only Skeeve had a fair odds policy, which was to record odds 15minutes after release.

    I go to 7% worse odds for most, but it depends on their stated ROI.

    I have written a heap on the GOWI service, again, use the search button. He quotes available odds at the time, but as you have seen these drop within milliseconds, so 1 or 2 people get those odds, the other issue is he does not share any verifiable results, so he could be putting in whatever figures he wants, especially when he quotes things like, “$3-$4 available” or $10 on betfair. I’m sure he is using the highest number and not adding BF commission.

    Read the reviews on these services. I could not recommend any of them yet but that doesn’t mean they won’t be a fit for you.

  18. 7tin says:

    Was actually doing some reading. And youre right, found most answers. Sorry about that. Football elite claims to record odds from 30 minutes after they posted as well.. Looks pretty solid.. What happened to Skeeve?

  19. Steve says:

    No worries, I usually love answer questions. Just way too busy these days.

    Skeeve is still going (this year he isn’t advising bets till January), but after 3 seasons of break even results I decided it wasn’t worth the effort.

  20. 7tin says:

    Allright no biggie. Just browsed around on skeeves website. According to skeeves records he has been doing quite good the last years (around 10% roi recorded after the first drop). How come you were breaking even?

  21. Steve says:

    I am in OZ, so can’t bet when they are released and on some games the odds never rebounded.

  22. 7tin says:

    Ah ofcourse.. Well atleast you can fully enjoy NBL which seems to do just fine in the last 5 years. Im off to bed, have a nice day!

  23. Steve says:

    NBL has challenges all it’s own. Impossible to get on, massive swings, so on.
    Good night

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