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  1. Luke Anders says:

    I would love to know the ways you get around having accounts banned. My
    stakes are not crazy big, I do all the things that are supposed to help
    keep me under the radar and am now completely limited/heavily restricted
    with 5 agencies. Only one of these accounts my POT was amazing, the
    other 4 accounts were only marginally profitable, I wasn’t arbing or
    anything like that. It really pisses me off!

  2. Steve says:

    Hey Luke,
    I don’t think I’ve ever said I’ve managed to keep all my accounts open. Some books you have no chance, if you win you’re banned. Some books just limit, others there are tricks to get around them. Testing all these things out cost me a few accounts, but now I am pretty stable. I do lose an account here and there, but it’s not as bad as what is portrayed.

    People want to be given everything for free these days without doing any work for themselves. I’ve given more then enough advice on how to get around it, you need to take the time to read the articles, figure out what they are saying and then test, test, test all your assumptions.

    But one things for sure, if you keep doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result then that’s a pretty apt description of insanity.

    I can’t spoon feed people, cause everything I write is scrutinised by the bookies. If I tell you trick A, tomorrow it wont work. Why would I give up something as valuable to me as open accounts.

    People are too lazy these days and bookies love that.

    Do the work, and you will be rewarded. It’s as simple as that.

  3. Luke Anders says:

    Will do. The grind is tougher when you’re starting off with a much smaller bank, but I’ll get there eventually!

  4. David C. says:

    Hi Steve,

    Good to know that little Ollie is already at home. Enjoy your new fatherhood!

    I have a question for you regarding Frazzled, if I may. What bank size in term of points do you advise for following him, based on his worse drawdown, strike rate, etc.?

    Thanks in advance and cheers from Barcelona.

  5. Steve says:

    Thanks David,
    He is doing great. Holding him while I reply to you.
    I’ve only been following for about 5 months. I also only bet the straight win, not EW (can match win odds, but not place odds). With golf when the average odds are so big you will have very very big drawdowns. I’ve set aside a 200 point bank.
    I think this should be big enough, but who knows.
    If you were to bet EW then you might give some value back but it will smooth out variance massively. Then a 100-150 point bank would be pretty safe.

  6. David C. says:

    Yes, I realized that the strike rate would be significatly lower than in other sports, more like horse racing I guess. Thanks very much for your advice, Steve. I will be watching him for some time and then probably go with the 200 points as you suggested… and be prepared for a roller-coaster.

  7. Luke says:

    Hi Steve,

    I hope you will ask some questions to Tom from PCG soon. I have no idea how CFL selection (Winnipeg – Edmonton) odds could be recorded as 1.95 when max was 1.8 (I deducted this odds from his daily summary). It’s not just one incident. The best solution in my opinion: he could put available odds with O/U and hadicaps selections as it is with moneylines. Recording just Pinnacle odds would be other factor which could improve his service quality.

  8. Patty M says:

    Just curious, what were your POT on these accounts? I’ve been limited with a 10% POT

  9. Luke Anders says:

    In tracking my bets I haven’t noted which agencies they were with in the past, so can’t answer that with any certainy. When I first started taking things more seriously I didn’t see the point in it, but that was before I knew some of these agencies actually restricted/banned customers. So it’s something I’m going to start doing I think. Lux would have been huge POT, I’m thinking in excess of 100%, so I was restricted really quickly. Mind you, I’d say less than 5% of my bank was bet through lux at the time, it just so happened that all my luck seemed to occur in the bets I was placing with them. Sportsbet account was barely profitable, maybe 2%, to the point I could not understand why I on earth they’d restrict me. They were the first to do so, and at the time I was flattered, but in shock. Ladbrokes group I’m not sure, I’m guessing in the region of 5%, but I had an account with them for a number of years before they decided to restrict me.

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