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  1. Tom says:

    Will you be using the Sportpunter NFL service this season Steve?

  2. Steve says:

    Not sure yet, will need to look at past results. From memory each season starts well but ends badly.

  3. Ben says:

    I appreciate it’s annoying when you can’t place the bets at the advised odds or spread but to suggest PCG stops sending out some official selections because you couldn’t place them is a bit, well, self absorbed!

  4. Steve says:

    Hey Ben,
    Do you follow the service? Did you manage to get your full stakes on?
    I assume anyone betting more then $100 a unit would have had issues with these bets. I see no reason to send these as an unofficial bet (knowing that only 1 or 2 people could get the odds). I have banged on about it for years, it’s easy to show a massive profit betting into very niche markets, but if you are going to run a professional service then your customers should come first. There have been great strides in recent years thanks to Skeeve, TFA, FB Investor and so on.

    The larger issue was being told to take any line I could get. But that’s my own mistake and I’ve paid for that. Lesson learnt.

    I have found time and time again that any concerns I have with a service are echoed by many others, the only difference is I have a platform to spread it. I have also received a number of emails recently querying the results of PCG email service compared to the results on Picksmonitor.

  5. Ben says:

    Hi Steve – great blog by the way, really enjoying reading it, even if I don’t always agree with what you say!! Yes, I’ve followed PCG for quite a while, bet £75 a unit and have no issues getting the bets on with a combination of 365/Pinn etc

    I’m surprised at what you say about PCG results being queried – I admit I don’t know Picksmonitor – as his results on his emails tally with mine. I’ve always thought Tom was one of the ‘good guys’ and his long term results are great

    I think if you have trouble getting on the college football bets, leave them out. It’s only a small part of his service and NFL, NBA and MLB (except the past week or so!) are where the main profits are to be had

  6. Steve says:

    Hey Ben, Cheers, I don’t even agree with myself at times. That’s why this discussion area is so good. We are all students and I’m forever making mistakes and need to learn as well.

    Firstly I don’t think the service is bad in anyway, I think my location is a big factor in matching the odds and explained that. When I have been up at 1am and the emails have come out, I can match the odds. So I have no issue with the odds or the results. I also believe Tom is a good guy and knows what he is doing. I think it is a profitable service.

    I had an issue with those specific bets and I think for good reason. That bet was only available at 5dimes, and then Betcris and I think B365 may have added it closer to kickoff. If you got the same lines and odds for those 3 games then the issue might only be mine.

    Yep, that’s what I’ll be doing. Any bets that move more then a point I will be leaving alone from now.

    Thanks for the comments, good to have people state their opinion when it contradicts with mine.

  7. Sporting Value says:

    Somehow the College bets ended up in my junk folder and I never saw them! 2 points does seem a lot though, given the circumstances. Also find the Canadian Football prices disappear very fast.

  8. Steve says:

    haha, mark those emails as important. Yep, much higher stakes then almost all other bets this season. I usually have to take at least 1 point worse lines on CFL.

  9. wah says:

    Hi Ben
    How long have you followed PCG for. What time zone are you in.What bookies do you use and do you have any records you would like to share?

    I have been looking at joining for a while but am kind of waiting to see an sbc review as i have no faith in us monitoring and cant get hold of detailed results from pcg.

    AND Steves results although relevant to me a little I should be able to improve on.

    Thanks if you reply if not well i ask a lot of questions

  10. Mariano says:

    I did the same stupid mistake as you with those 3 bets. I guess I was lucky that the limit in 5Dimes when I took them was super low so in the end I lost half of what I would have lost if I could have taken the full 2 units…
    I also agree with you, it was just impossible to take them so send them as official 2 units bets doesn’t make any sense.

  11. Ben says:

    Hi, I joined PCG in June last year and am just over 50 units up – I also missed quite a good period for Tom while I was away in April and he’s also lost 13 units the past three months so I was a lot higher!

    I’m in the UK and his MLB bets almost always arrive between 4 and 5pm. I tend to use bet365 and pinnacle as my main bookies for PCG but can still get limited bets on at places like hills and vcbet

    I find the majority of his odds attainable although I sometimes struggle with the (-1) MLB bets as, for me, these are only available at pinnacle and the odds vary to those in the email

    I recommend PCG, the subscription is relatively cheap – especially to other US tipsters I looked at – and the long term results seem to be very good. Tom is also very quick to answer any questions

    Hope this helps

  12. Veselin Stanchev says:

    Hi Flash,

    I am part of the proofing team for Owltips and can assure you the service is the reason behind the odds movements, I watch this situation getting worse and worse over the last 2 seasons. Not that the tipster is guilty in anyway of course, he tries everything to ease the odds availability, like making the service more difficult to be exploited by resellers for example.

  13. Andrew says:

    I don’t suppose you are Mariano who runs a website about South American football?

  14. Mariano says:

    If you mean Argentine football…yep, that’s me.

  15. Andrew says:

    Nice. I found your site through a site related to GOWI and really liked the look of your write ups. Shame I know nothing about Argentinian football!

  16. Mariano says:

    Thanks, unfortunately I’ve been too busy to update it lately but still running the service behind it.

    PS: sorry Steve for the offtopic.

  17. Steve says:

    Yes, it is not the tipsters fault, but the odds recording should be the same as other professionals in the field. He should be recording to odds 15 minutes after release at least.
    I am in a poor location in regards to getting the emails after everyone else. So when I try to bet the prices crash before I can get on. The fact it is also a niche league means that only a few can get on for the quoted odds, and as mentioned above, some users seem not to understand value and will bet at any odds.

  18. Veselin Stanchev says:

    Absolutely agree here, Steve, all tipsters should record odds with fair delay and nobody, sports or racing tipster, should be allowed to use odds from clown books like Boyle, Marathon, Betvictor.

  19. Steve says:

    Yep, if this was the case though, I think worldwide there would be about 5 profitable tipsters.

  20. says:

    yeah with 1.95 sides, you need about a 15% change in odds min. for the other side to be profitable.

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